Re: [secdir] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-uta-smtp-tlsrpt-17

Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Thu, 22 March 2018 15:17 UTC

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Subject: Re: [secdir] Secdir last call review of draft-ietf-uta-smtp-tlsrpt-17
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Hi Phillip,
To followup on the IANA issue from your SecDir review:

On 08/03/2018 19:39, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> 
> Specific issues
> 
> The DNS prefix _smtp-tlsrpt is defined. This is not mentioned in the IANA
> considerations. It is a code point being defined in a protocol that is outside
> the scope of UTA and therefore MUST have an IANA assignment and is a DNS code
> point which is shared space and therefore MUST have an assignment.
> 
> If no IANA registry exists, one should be created.

After looking at this in more details, I think a new registration in the
registry being created by draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf is exactly what you
are asking for. I think registering _smtp-tlsrpt there should be
straightforward. However I don't think this document should be delayed
until after draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf is done. So if
draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf is taking time, the proposed registration can
be moved to draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf itself.

> In general, the approach should be consistent with the following:
> 
> [RFC6763] S. Cheshire and M. Krochmal "DNS-Based Service Discovery" RFC 6763
> DOI 10.17487/RFC6763 February 2013
> 
> It might well be appropriate to create a separate IANA prefix registry
> 'report'. That is probably easier since this prefix does not fit well with the
> existing ones.
> 
> _smtp-tlsrpt._report

I think this is covered by draft-ietf-dnsop-attrleaf.

Best Regards,
Alexey