Re: [Secdispatch] Controller-IKE
Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> Thu, 08 August 2019 02:44 UTC
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Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] Controller-IKE
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On 2019-07-22 10:28 a.m., Kathleen Moriarty wrote: > Hi David, > > Could you please explain how this is different from the adopted work in > I2NSF, > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-i2nsf-sdn-ipsec-flow-protection/ ? > > This is referenced in your draft along with one another, but there is no > analysis on why they don't fit the need. The draft in I2NSF pulled in > the IPsecMe working group and underwent significant revisions as a > result to deal with several initial security issues. If there 's a gap > that can be solved with that draft, could that be a way forward or is > this needed for some specific reason? It would be helpful to understand > this. I read David's response. I'm still unclear if I2NSF turned down this work or what? Is there a conclusion from secdispatch at this point?
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