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Re: [Secdispatch] [saag] The Mathematical Mesh

Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Tue, 23 April 2019 04:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] [saag] The Mathematical Mesh
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On Mon, Apr 22, 2019 at 10:49:18PM -0500, Nico Williams wrote:
> I've this idea that DANE stapling in TLS could be used to provide not
> just server authentication to clients, but also user authentication to
> servers, using client EE certificates with rfc822Name SANs and DANE to
> authenticate the domainname of a client certificate's rfc822Name SAN(s).

Ugh, I meant that DANE would authenticate the client cert's issuer,
identified by the domainname of the rfc822Name SAN.

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