Re: [Secdispatch] [art] Open Ethics Transparency Protocol

worley@ariadne.com Mon, 14 March 2022 01:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] [art] Open Ethics Transparency Protocol
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n.lukianets@openethics.ai writes:
> Nikita Lukianets from the Open Ethics initiative here.
>
> I've been working on the mechanisms to enable transparency for data 
> collection and data processing practices for autonomous systems and 
> specifically, those powered by machine learning models. Since 2020 I 
> have started to draft a guiding document to reflect ways disclosures 
> could be submitted, verified, and exchanged. Eventually, I would like to 
> see how this work could result in an open standard.

I have feelings which are similar to other respondents.  I phrase it
that the IETF is not the correct place for this work because the central
problem is at the application layer (and possibly above that, at the
political layer ... and certainly above that, at the cultural layer):
being transparent presupposes a suitable way to describe "data
collection and data processing practices" in "disclosures".

Once somebody defines a way to represent these disclosures as concrete
document objects, then there may be some protocol issues regarding how
to "submit, verify, and exchange" them.  But that still seems to be more
like the presentation layer, how you associate disclosure documents with
web sites etc. which they describe, which sounds like a W3C specialty.

Dale