Re: [Secdispatch] [Smart] New Version Notification for draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet-00.txt

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Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] [Smart] New Version Notification for draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet-00.txt
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Likewise, I read this I-D and it puts the finger on the right nerves. Thank you for putting this one in place.

Indeed it is very straightforward read

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On Wednesday 10 July 2019 17:29, Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dominique,
>
> I have read over your draft, and I think it highlights some very key things we all need to look at and address. Thanks for putting these ideas down on paper.  Hopefully this I-D can help us all start a broader discussion to improve things.
>
> SMART / SecDispatch,
>
> If you have not yet read this I-D, I would encourage you to look at it.  It is a very fast read.
>
> Thanks,
> Bret
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>> On Jul 8, 2019, at 12:54 PM, Dominique Lazanski <dml@lastpresslabel.com> wrote:
>>
>> Cross posting to this mailing list.
>>
>> Dominique
>>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet-00.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Dominique Lazanski and posted to the
>> IETF repository.
>>
>> Name:        draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet
>> Revision:    00
>> Title:        An Internet for Users Again
>> Document date:    2019-07-08
>> Group:        Individual Submission
>> Pages:        12
>> URL:            https://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet-00.txt
>> Status:         https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet/
>> Htmlized:       https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet-00
>> Htmlized:       https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet
>>
>> Abstract:
>>   RFC 3552 introduces a threat model that does not include endpoint
>>   security. In the fifteen years since RFC 3552 security issues and
>>   cyber attacks have increased, especially on the endpoint. This
>>   document proposes a new approach to Internet cyber security protocol
>>   development that focuses on the user of the Internet, namely those
>>   who use the endpoint and are the most vulnerable to attacks.
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