Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics
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From: Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net>
To: Rifaat Shekh-Yusef <rifaat.s.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] IETF118 - Call for topics
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Hi Rifaat-- On Wed 2023-10-18 09:20:17 -0400, Rifaat Shekh-Yusef wrote: > Are there any implementations of this mechanism? I don't know of any implementations. The mechanism itself hasn't yet been fully specified, as you can see from the open questions in the draft. I think the reason to bring it to the IETF is to get feedback from implementers about how they expect such a signal would work best for them. > Who else showed interest in this work? Aron Wussler from Proton (in Cc), and several folks in discussion about Thunderbird seemed interested. The idea originally came up originally at the OpenPGP e-mail summit several years ago (under the name "Mail STS") but got back-burnered while everyone was working on other things: https://wiki.gnupg.org/OpenPGPEmailSummit201910Notes#Workshop:_Mail_STS > Can you provide links to the other discussions you referred to below? The most recent spur for discussion was on the Thunderbird planning e-mail list, where we were discussing UX indicators (or the lack thereof) for broken signatures: https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/planning/T5355f1514594f892 The followup discussion specifically about the "expect-signed" idea is here: https://thunderbird.topicbox.com/groups/planning/T52c450e29763a00e hope this is useful, --dkg
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