Re: [Secdispatch] Request for session at IETF 113
Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com> Tue, 22 March 2022 14:15 UTC
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From: Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2022 10:15:06 -0400
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To: Chris Inacio <inacio@cert.org>, Ira McDonald <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] Request for session at IETF 113
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Hi, Please note that ETSI SAI (Security of AI) has been explicitly addressing these issues of algorithm/model/data set integrity and attestation for a couple of years, has already published several excellent documents and is developing more. My co-chair in TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions (Alec Brusilovsky, InterDigital) is a co-editor and rapporteur (liaison) to TCG from ETSI SAI. https://www.etsi.org/committee/sai Interested folks can send me a note (offlist). Cheers, - Ira *Ira McDonald (Musician / Software Architect)* *Chair - SAE Trust Anchors and Authentication TF* *Co-Chair - TCG Trusted Mobility Solutions WG* *Co-Chair - TCG Metadata Access Protocol SG* *Chair - Linux Foundation Open Printing WGSecretary - IEEE-ISTO Printer Working GroupCo-Chair - IEEE-ISTO PWG Internet Printing Protocol WGIETF Designated Expert - IPP & Printer MIBBlue Roof Music / High North Inchttp://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic <http://sites.google.com/site/blueroofmusic>http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc <http://sites.google.com/site/highnorthinc>mailto: blueroofmusic@gmail.com <blueroofmusic@gmail.com>(permanent) PO Box 221 Grand Marais, MI 49839 906-494-2434* On Tue, Mar 22, 2022 at 9:30 AM Chris Inacio <inacio@cert.org> wrote: > Henk, > > Just a quick comment before the start of the actual SECDISPATCH session: > signing an ML algorithm isn’t all that interesting, _maybe_ signing the > model is a bit more interesting. What’s really interesting is the data > used to create the model, and that is where a lot of work in adversarial AI > happens. But they don’t call it big data for nothing, and I’m not sure the > logistics of transparent (big) data, or the privacy impact of that are > reasonable. > > So maybe a different example may be appropriate. > > > -- > Chris Inacio > inacio@cert.org > > -----Original Message----- > From: Henk Birkholz <henk.birkholz@sit.fraunhofer.de> > Date: March 9, 2022 at 5:40:11 PM > To: secdispatch@ietf.org <secdispatch@ietf.org>, scitt@ietf.org < > scitt@ietf.org> > Subject: [Secdispatch] Request for session at IETF 113 > > > Hi secdispatch, > > (hi scitt), > > > > emerging work on the topic of Supply Chain Integrity, Transparency, > > Trust has taken some shape recently. > > > > The work combines existing IETF building blocks to facilitate useful > > Internet-based support of global supply chain interoperability. > > > > Current contributions focus on the definition of Transparency Services > > based on Internet technology (using CBOR/CDDL/COSE) to achieve > > unambiguous, scaleable, and resilient integration with common devops and > > secops requirements. > > > > I'd like to request secdispatch agenda time for two documents that are > > currently submitted: > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birkholz-scitt-architecture/ > > > > and > > > > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-birkholz-scitt-receipts/ > > > > These two contributions are in -00 state. Yet, they already address > > essential requirements, such as, air-gapped validation when being > > offline, integration of remote attestation, efficient and crypto-agile > > signing prescriptions for out-of-the-box interoperability, and - in > > essence - long-long-term guarantees in support of various types of > > supply chains requirements. > > > > We’d be happy to present this emerging work in secdispatch with the goal > > of discussing whether it might fit into the IETF space and how to > > progress it together. > > > > Viele Grüße, > > > > Henk > > > > On 26.02.22 02:29, "IETF Secretariat" wrote: > > > Dear Mohit Sethi, > > > > > > The session(s) that you have requested have been scheduled. > > > Below is the scheduled session information followed by > > > the original request. > > > > > > > > > secdispatch Session 1 (2:00 requested) > > > Tuesday, 22 March 2022, Afternoon Session II 1430-1630 > > > Room Name: Grand Park Hall 3 size: 250 > > > --------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > iCalendar: > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/113/sessions/secdispatch.ics > > > > > > Request Information: > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > Working Group Name: Security Dispatch > > > Area Name: Security Area > > > Session Requester: Mohit Sethi > > > > > > > > > Number of Sessions: 1 > > > Length of Session(s): > > > Number of Attendees: 200 > > > Conflicts to Avoid: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > People who must be present: > > > Benjamin Kaduk > > > Kathleen Moriarty > > > Mohit Sethi > > > Paul Wouters > > > Richard Barnes > > > Roman Danyliw > > > > > > Resources Requested: > > > > > > Special Requests: > > > Please avoid conflict with any Security related BoF. > > > --------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Secdispatch mailing list > > > Secdispatch@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/secdispatch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Secdispatch mailing list > > Secdispatch@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/secdispatch > > > _______________________________________________ > Secdispatch mailing list > Secdispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/secdispatch >
- [Secdispatch] secdispatch - Requested session has… "IETF Secretariat"
- Re: [Secdispatch] secdispatch - Requested session… Sean Turner
- Re: [Secdispatch] secdispatch - Requested session… Kathleen Moriarty
- [Secdispatch] Request for session at IETF 113 Henk Birkholz
- Re: [Secdispatch] Request for session at IETF 113 Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Secdispatch] Request for session at IETF 113 Richard Barnes
- Re: [Secdispatch] Request for session at IETF 113 Kathleen Moriarty
- Re: [Secdispatch] [EXTERNAL] Re: [SCITT] Request … Antoine Delignat-Lavaud
- Re: [Secdispatch] Request for session at IETF 113 Chris Inacio
- Re: [Secdispatch] Request for session at IETF 113 Ira McDonald