Re: [Secdispatch] Please help dispatch "Dangerous Labels"

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Wed, 27 July 2022 10:10 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] Please help dispatch "Dangerous Labels"
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On 2022-07-26, at 17:08, Daniel Kahn Gillmor <dkg@fifthhorseman.net> wrote:
> 
> The not-so-secret goal of the document is to *discourage* creation of
> new labels like this.  Or, rather, to discourage the creation of systems
> that treat certain "magic" labels as having special properties.

Do we need a draft-___-dns-get-off-my-lawn (analog to what is now BCP 190, RFC 8820)?

Grüße, Carsten