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Re: [Secdispatch] [Smart] New Version Notification for draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet-00.txt

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Mon, 15 July 2019 00:50 UTC

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From: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2019 17:50:10 -0700
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To: Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com>
Cc: Phillip Hallam-Baker <phill@hallambaker.com>, smart@irtf.org, Kathleen Moriarty <kathleen.moriarty.ietf@gmail.com>, Dominique Lazanski <dml@lastpresslabel.com>, IETF SecDispatch <Secdispatch@ietf.org>, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie>
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Subject: Re: [Secdispatch] [Smart] New Version Notification for draft-lazanski-smart-users-internet-00.txt
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Bret,

Thanks for your note.

On Sun, Jul 14, 2019 at 5:45 PM Bret Jordan <jordan.ietf@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I believe a document written by the IETF that talks more plainly about the
> whole security pie, and what parts the IETF is going to try and work on,
> would be helpful.  We can not boil the ocean.  Further, some parts are
> better solved outside of the IETF.  We just need to make sure the things we
> do, do not make other elements of operational security impossible.
>

Much like the original draft, this seems to be implying, but not really
stating something.

If your position is that some protocol engineering that the IETF is doing
is making operational security impossible, it would be useful for you to
argue that directly. As is, it's not really clear how to respond.

-Ekr


> Bret
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