Re: [Secdispatch] EDHOC Summary

Alexey Melnikov <alexey.melnikov@isode.com> Thu, 28 March 2019 17:40 UTC

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Hi Michael,

On 28 Mar 2019, at 17:25, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:

>>> Chartering a narrowly scoped, short-lived WG in this space with EDHOC
>>> as a starting point seems to be an attractive path forward, but we
>>> would like to
>>> receive community feedback on the degree of support for this approach.
> 
> I believe that that our experience with narrowly scoped short-lived WGs has
> been poor.  I can't think of a positive, or really, any example.
> I would dearly like this to not be the case... so maybe we can do better.
> Maybe there is some RFC3999 we can try here.

This can vary by area, but we had several examples in ART, with a single document deliverable. One example is IMAPMOVE.

Best Regards,
Alexey