Re: [Secdispatch] [Ace] FW: [secdir] EDHOC and Transports

Göran Selander <goran.selander@ericsson.com> Mon, 18 February 2019 17:10 UTC

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From: Göran Selander <goran.selander@ericsson.com>
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
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Hi Michael,

On 2019-02-18, 02:35, "Ace on behalf of Michael Richardson" <ace-bounces@ietf.org on behalf of mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca> wrote:

    Richard Barnes <rlb@ipv.sx> wrote:
        > Finally, to be totally honest, I find the EDHOC spec pretty inscrutable. A
        > little more prose to explain what's going on would go a long way toward
        > helping this discussion be productive.
    
    Sure.
    Find a WG to adopt it, and we can make the text beautiful.

I believe this is what the SecDispatch chairs are considering. I know of others sharing your impatience too.

    The packets are all there, and the references pretty much explain all the crypto.
    This stuff is not any newer than IKEv2.
   
EDHOC is neither TLS 1.3 nor IKEv2. The similarity with other AKEs comes from being based on same SIGMA protocol. Current version of EDHOC is based on Sigma-I, but the Sigma-R version discussed in a parallel thread is similar to IKEv2:
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ace/ZDHYEhvI0PenU6nGrhGlULIz0oQ


Göran