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Re: [Sedate] Reference to Unicode calendar.xml document

Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> Thu, 20 April 2023 15:35 UTC

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Hi Patrik,

thank you for the elucidation.

I have built 
https://github.com/ietf-wg-sedate/draft-ietf-sedate-datetime-extended/pull/41
out of this information and other information in the thread.
The text in this PR is still trying to be helpful, but with stable references only.

Comments welcome.

Grüße, Carsten


> On 2023-04-07, at 18:04, Patrik Fältström <paf=40paftech.se@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> Signed PGP part
> Hi,
> 
> I have had a look at this, and believe the link into GitHub is not really what is what should be done, as you say. I also think that the link to "repos" is wrong as that is a redirect into GitHub.
> 
> The correct reference is given by referencing the correct version of CLDR that you are using, and how to link is explained on this unicode consortium web site:
> 
> <https://cldr.unicode.org/stable-links-info>
> 
> I.e. if you go with version 22 you should use <http://cldr.unicode.org/index/downloads/cldr-22> etc.
> 
> Best, Patrik
> 
> On 6 Apr 2023, at 5:54, Bron Gondwana wrote:
> 
>> Hi Patrik,
>> 
>> I'm one of the chairs of the SEDATE working group.  I'm emailing you in your capacity as the IETF Liaison to Unicode.
>> 
>> We have a document in our working group that references a Unicode registry:
>> 
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sedate-datetime-extended/
>> 
>> Which currently has these references:
>> 
>>   [CLDR]     "Unicode CLDR Project", <https://cldr.unicode.org> .
>> 
>>   [CLDR-CALENDAR]
>>              "cldr/common/bcp47/calendar.xml", <https://github.com/
>>              unicode-org/cldr/blob/main/common/bcp47/calendar.xml>.
>> 
>> We'd like to reference something better than github!
>> 
>> We discovered during our session at IETF116 that the registry has been referenced before - in RFC7529 like so:
>> 
>>   [UNICODE.CLDR]
>>              The Unicode Consortium, "CLDR calendar.xml Data", Unicode
>>              Consortium CLDR,
>>              <http://www.unicode.org/repos/cldr/tags/latest/common/<http://www.unicode.org/repos/cldr/tags/latest/common/bcp47/calendar.xml>
>>              bcp47/calendar.xml <http://www.unicode.org/repos/cldr/tags/latest/common/bcp47/calendar.xml>> .
>> 
>> Is there a preferred format for these references?  We're happy to do whatever is most likely to remain stable!
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Bron.
>> 
>> --
>>  Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd
>>  brong@fastmailteam.com
> 
> 
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