Re: [Sedate] Reference to Unicode calendar.xml document

Justin Grant <justingrant.ietf.public@gmail.com> Fri, 07 April 2023 22:57 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sedate] Reference to Unicode calendar.xml document
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Hi Bron - We can use https://unicode.org/Public/cldr/latest/core.zip. This
always redirects to the latest release.

On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 2:26 PM Bron Gondwana <brong=
40fastmailteam.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

> We would like to reference it as an updated registry rather than a
> snapshot in time, as one would reference an IANA registry, so we don't want
> to give a stable reference to a particular release in this case.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bron
>
> On Sat, Apr 8, 2023, at 02:04, Patrik Fältström wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I have had a look at this, and believe the link into GitHub is not really
> what is what should be done, as you say. I also think that the link to
> "repos" is wrong as that is a redirect into GitHub.
>
> The correct reference is given by referencing the correct version of CLDR
> that you are using, and how to link is explained on this unicode consortium
> web site:
>
> <https://cldr.unicode.org/stable-links-info>
>
> I.e. if you go with version 22 you should use <
> http://cldr.unicode.org/index/downloads/cldr-22> etc.
>
> Best, Patrik
>
> On 6 Apr 2023, at 5:54, Bron Gondwana wrote:
>
> > Hi Patrik,
> >
> > I'm one of the chairs of the SEDATE working group.  I'm emailing you in
> your capacity as the IETF Liaison to Unicode.
> >
> > We have a document in our working group that references a Unicode
> registry:
> >
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-sedate-datetime-extended/
> >
> > Which currently has these references:
> >
> >    [CLDR]     "Unicode CLDR Project", <https://cldr.unicode.org> .
> >
> >    [CLDR-CALENDAR]
> >               "cldr/common/bcp47/calendar.xml", <https://github.com/
> >               unicode-org/cldr/blob/main/common/bcp47/calendar.xml>.
> >
> > We'd like to reference something better than github!
> >
> > We discovered during our session at IETF116 that the registry has been
> referenced before - in RFC7529 like so:
> >
> >    [UNICODE.CLDR]
> >               The Unicode Consortium, "CLDR calendar.xml Data", Unicode
> >               Consortium CLDR,
> >               <http://www.unicode.org/repos/cldr/tags/latest/common/ <
> http://www.unicode.org/repos/cldr/tags/latest/common/bcp47/calendar.xml>
> >               bcp47/calendar.xml <
> http://www.unicode.org/repos/cldr/tags/latest/common/bcp47/calendar.xml>>
> .
> >
> > Is there a preferred format for these references?  We're happy to do
> whatever is most likely to remain stable!
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bron.
> >
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