Re: [sfc] Murray Kucherawy's Discuss on draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-integrity-06: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Thu, 15 July 2021 14:03 UTC

Return-Path: <superuser@gmail.com>
X-Original-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: sfc@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C13C43A0D7A; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:03:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.097
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.097 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=gmail.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nyHtzn4EUifu; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:03:23 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-ua1-x92f.google.com (mail-ua1-x92f.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::92f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36D303A0D75; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:03:23 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-ua1-x92f.google.com with SMTP id q20so2145739uaa.3; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:03:23 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jg2yo6dUCv9XzJ+ck3QVRKUr6RUjq+sYjEOGWWGYefY=; b=n0uA4uO4nnM/oefEdNOIpXhU7P2zAfymAqDSwfDgyAqysdyTwR31+/DRxVKF8xBuW8 u4KtCqSRh7ECi7a1Ls88sXgv9TSFff1U/TyHgJGjRThq+MZRGmx3OJoiR5Db47gee54O kCKbQzooKhKeOHNGDDfvL2qyQaFMW8HfHmeSK+26CHX6CntzMu7oGeiBGmUtUelQwLdf R9cVtsiEqCwGoDT7H7630qT05QYki2zGMrVeeq1qnSF3C5JgpOU6qe3V5OP53JqCJvQg OPtprGCjAzAZrTAO+RCPQSsjzZ4Yp/1O7yU/Jz/NtwhP2wm/xWqedZHwUmfDh7yYzZfR OFXQ==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jg2yo6dUCv9XzJ+ck3QVRKUr6RUjq+sYjEOGWWGYefY=; b=KWin5vFC9XosBZbGurG3DhFZwIrATA8IbJRLZ2UIx4SFE8Rf+Y2y9TkUwdbs4+m7UX Y/I7wX4TG9mUYy3WwcgKRCRNUDD06MQNrUzGl0v6mvVVkGRNMBsCKdXpzTJlHCExBWJd 9g2f9Qm9NrzaOraYh3wn/YiIO0XCXRS9T0wAmC+KH2fTtnTBfrFRSW7zGoRN67AFLav8 WbUI7sUiIH3TMoypCJ1UZe5QnPrBdLJEQZNQAIa2LYdbkLQ0lgNR7ok/lrgv9S0YTg4g p2mxnuid10btHWKT+7wmYwsC7XPUPTKc44tIxvDvk5nH34RqsBV214fZmQAFzasjINez Mjyw==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM532X5/GhrB7lifyS+WoKNV2CY6ymzvMNMm8s0gvFD9SSxl1ntwJE Joht5OaAfT0j4CngJHmdUPa2d9p6W+ROjX03SMA=
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzgztghu0arye1DxDuyOpUHS4LvDx/q3QtCEtqqaLnwaEU4qIFmoP1dP5MWaSLbpNn1xlOKKjHO6pJM5++myeg=
X-Received: by 2002:ab0:7023:: with SMTP id u3mr7212009ual.76.1626357801819; Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:03:21 -0700 (PDT)
MIME-Version: 1.0
References: <162632962077.15354.4548212112967523910@ietfa.amsl.com> <7171_1626342870_60F005D6_7171_103_3_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B9330353BF653@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>
In-Reply-To: <7171_1626342870_60F005D6_7171_103_3_787AE7BB302AE849A7480A190F8B9330353BF653@OPEXCAUBMA2.corporate.adroot.infra.ftgroup>
From: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 07:03:10 -0700
Message-ID: <CAL0qLwbsHjjRvJqsKeLmZLm=R+tGN=VSaQtJWfqbjizRHQfevg@mail.gmail.com>
To: mohamed.boucadair@orange.com
Cc: The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>, "draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-integrity@ietf.org" <draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-integrity@ietf.org>, "sfc-chairs@ietf.org" <sfc-chairs@ietf.org>, "sfc@ietf.org" <sfc@ietf.org>, "gregimirsky@gmail.com" <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000000e20d905c729efc6"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/sfc/8pMr1Vf8rAhZuco-QanLDjrCL9g>
Subject: Re: [sfc] Murray Kucherawy's Discuss on draft-ietf-sfc-nsh-integrity-06: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
X-BeenThere: sfc@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Network Service Chaining <sfc.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/sfc>, <mailto:sfc-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/sfc/>
List-Post: <mailto:sfc@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:sfc-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc>, <mailto:sfc-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2021 14:03:30 -0000

On Thu, Jul 15, 2021 at 2:54 AM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> wrote:

> I don't have much to add to the DISCUSS point in addition to what both
> Joel and myself said in other threads. We added new text as agreed with
> Alvaro and Zahed to make sure that we are referring to an option that is
> discussed in RFC8300 + we don't recommend against transport security. We
> will add the update header if this is the conclusion of the IESG
> discussion. We will follow Martin's guidance on this.
>

I honestly did try to find such a thread before posting my position.  I
apologize for missing it.  I'll find and review that, and then get out of
your way.

-MSK