Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-multi-layer-oam
Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com> Tue, 23 November 2021 21:05 UTC
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Subject: Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-multi-layer-oam
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Hi Linda, thank you for supporting this work and sharing your comments. Please find my notes in-lined below under the GIM>> tag. I hope the proposed update addresses your concerns. Regards, Greg On Tue, Nov 23, 2021 at 11:29 AM Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@futurewei.com> wrote: > I support the WGLC for the draft-ietf-sfc-multi-layer-oam-16 > > > > I have some questions though: > > > > The Req #1 says that Active SFC OAM should traverse the same path .. in > the transport layer as the SFC data packet. > > Is the “Transport Layer” refers to TCP/QUIC/UDP transport layer? Or > referring to the underlay network path? > GIM>> Thank you for pointing this out. You're right, the terminology is not accurate and I propose s/transport/underlay network/. (I've noticed one more place where this update is needed.) > > > Is it necessary for all functions on the SFC to process the Active SFC OAM > data packets? > GIM>> This document is to apply to Classifiers, SFFs. We don't require SF and SF Proxy to process SFC Active OAM. If we consider an intermediate SFF, then it is required to process Active SFC OAM packets without passing it to an SF/SF Proxy. > The Req#3 says that Egress node must send the “Remote Defect Indication” > to the ingress node. Is it necessary for the intermediate Functions to send > “Remote Defect Indication” to the ingress node? > GIM>> RDI, as I understand its function, is used in one-way protocols that detect a failure in the network. An egress node sets RDI in OAM packets notifying the ingress of a detected defect. I don't see an intermediate node setting RDI, as it is not detecting a defect in the SFP. RDI is not useful in FM OAM protocols that use round-trip methods, e.g., ping. > > > > > Thank you > > Linda Dunbar > > > > > > On Mon, Nov 1, 2021 at 2:50 PM Joel Halpern Direct > > <jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com> <<jmh.direct@joelhalpern.com>> wrote: > > > > > > I have received a polite request with explanation for delay asking for > > > more time to read and review the subject document. Given the state of > > > the working group, i want to encourage any and all review. So I am > > > extending the last call by two additional weeks. > > > > > > Please read and review the document. > > > Also, if you are willing to serve as shepherd for this, please let the > > > chairs know. (Don't worry if you have not shepherded a document before. > > > The chairs are more than happy to help you with the process.) > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Joel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sfc mailing list > > > sfc@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc > > > _______________________________________________ > sfc mailing list > sfc@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sfc >
- [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-mult… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Dirk.von-Hugo
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Donald Eastlake
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… wei.yuehua
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Gyan Mishra
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Gyan Mishra
- [sfc] SFC OAM gap analysis [Was Re: Regarding las… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] SFC OAM gap analysis [Was Re: Regarding… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Linda Dunbar
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Dirk.von-Hugo
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Huzhibo
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Frank Brockners (fbrockne)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Greg Mirsky
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Joel Halpern Direct
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Carlos Pignataro (cpignata)
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [sfc] Regarding last call for draft-ietf-sfc-… mohamed.boucadair