Re: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

<mohamed.boucadair@orange.com> Thu, 17 January 2019 15:02 UTC

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Hi Andy,

Please see inline.

Cheers,
Med

De : Andrew G. Malis [mailto:agmalis@gmail.com]
Envoyé : jeudi 17 janvier 2019 15:50
À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed TGI/OLN
Cc : IETF Secretariat; sfc-chairs@ietf.org; draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support@ietf.org; sfc@ietf.org
Objet : Re: [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support in state "Candidate for WG Adoption"

Med,

Not all transports support ECN marking, for example NSH over MPLS.
[Med] Isn’t this covered by RFC5129?

And even where the transport supports ECN marking, note the example in Figure 1 in the draft where the outer encapsulation can be stripped during SFF processing. In that case, the scope of the ECN marking is limited to individual SFF-SFF links. rather than end-to-end.

[Med] Why couldn’t SFF preserve ECN when doing its transport decap/encap?


Cheers,
Andy


On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 9:12 AM <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com<mailto:mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>> wrote:
Hi all,

I do think that ECN is naturally better handled at the transport encapsulation instead of the NSH itself.

Requiring the functionality to be handled at the transport encap (draft-ietf-tsvwg-rfc6040update-shim) and NSH is redundant, IMO.

I like the approach we set in the SFC architecture in which we separated service matters from transport ones. I'd vote for maintaining that separation cleaner as it was set in the arch RFC.

Thank you.

Cheers,
Med

> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : sfc [mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org<mailto:sfc-bounces@ietf.org>] De la part de IETF Secretariat
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> sfc@ietf.org<mailto:sfc@ietf.org>
> Objet : [sfc] The SFC WG has placed draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support in
> state "Candidate for WG Adoption"
>
>
> The SFC WG has placed draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support in state
> Candidate for WG Adoption (entered by Joel Halpern)
>
> The document is available at
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-eastlake-sfc-nsh-ecn-support/
>
> Comment:
> This starts the WG call for adoption of this draft.
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> to them relevant to this draft has been disclosed.
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> The working group adoption call will last 2 weeks, ending at the end of the
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