Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was Re: SFrame proposed WG charter)
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From: Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com>
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Subject: Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was Re: SFrame proposed WG charter)
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Hi, I want to make one high level comments on the proposed charter for SFRAME. The charter attempts to be transport agnostic. However, we know there are certain use cases this solution needs to support. And I think one of the hardest from a security perspective is the multi-party centralised one with one or more SFUs. Based on the significant discussion we had in PERC around threat model, I think this charter do need to have in its description work to explicitly develop the threat model as well describe which aspects of the threat model that one can address. For example I think the security threat of media delay which is an interesting variant of "replay" attack that exist for real-time media conversation where there are logic that selects what to forward. Cheers Magnus Westerlund On Fri, 2020-07-31 at 13:15 -0400, Richard Barnes wrote: > The link Emad posted should allow for comments, so please feel free to comment > directly on the doc. > > Or you can reply with comments here and we'll get them incorporated. > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2020 at 5:59 PM Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote: > > Hi everyone, > > > > We had a good discussion on SFrame in the dispatch meeting, and a lot of > > interest in progressing it. The chairs would love it if we can get some > > discussion of the proposed charter (below) now, while it’s still fresh in > > people’s minds. If we don’t see feedback to the contrary within a couple of > > weeks (let’s call that 14 Aug), we will hand it over to the ART ADs. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Ben. > > > > > On Jul 27, 2020, at 12:34 PM, Emad Omara < > > > emadomara=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote: > > > > > > Hi dispatch, > > > > > > Following up on the discussion we had this morning in IETF 108 dispatch > > > session about SFrame, it seems there is enough interest to form a focused > > > WG for this work. > > > > > > Richard Barnes proposed this charter for the WG. Please take a look and > > > feel free to comment on the doc directly and propose other changes as > > > well. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Emad > > > _______________________________________________ > > > dispatch mailing list > > > dispatch@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dispatch mailing list > > dispatch@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch > > _______________________________________________ > dispatch mailing list > dispatch@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dispatch -- Cheers Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Networks, Ericsson Research ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Torshamnsgatan 23 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------
- [Sframe] SFrame proposed WG charter Emad Omara
- [Sframe] SFRame Next Steps (was Re: [dispatch] SF… Ben Campbell
- Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was Re… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was Re… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was SF… Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was SF… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was SF… Emad Omara
- Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was SF… Alexandre GOUAILLARD
- Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was SF… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was SF… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was SF… Richard Barnes
- Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was SF… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was SF… Emad Omara
- Re: [Sframe] [dispatch] SFRame Next Steps (was SF… Magnus Westerlund