[Sframe] Dispatch of SFrame for End-To-End Encrypted Conference Calls

Patrick McManus <patrick.ducksong@gmail.com> Mon, 15 June 2020 19:06 UTC

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From: Patrick McManus <patrick.ducksong@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2020 15:05:47 -0400
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Subject: [Sframe] Dispatch of SFrame for End-To-End Encrypted Conference Calls
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Hi All -

I failed to note the link highlighting in Emad's mail to the list which
already contained the draft. Sorry about that. (It's
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-omara-sframe-00 if you too missed it).

There's also a github and mailing list referenced:
https://github.com/eomara/sframe
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/sframe/?

[I've also forked the Subject Line to help interested readers]

On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 2:42 PM Patrick McManus <patrick.ducksong@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Sounds really interesting Emad and there's obviously related work going on
> (at least perc, maybe even mls..).
>
> Sending that email Ben mentions to the dispatch list to raise awareness
> with a link to the draft would be helpful in getting the process started..
>
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 2:33 PM Emad Omara <emadomara@google.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ben,
>>
>> This draft proposes a solution for end-to-end encrypted conference calls.
>> We implemented this in Google a couple of years ago in Duo, but the draft
>> was only published last month given the current interest in the topic.
>>
>> The goal of the session is to go through the proposal and see if there is
>> interest to continue working on this, and if so what will be the best WG to
>> host this work.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Emad
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 11:02 AM Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Emad,
>>>
>>> We prioritize DISPATCH meeting time to focus on topics that have had
>>> DISPATCH list discussion and need high-bandwidth time to resolve. Unless
>>> I’ve missed something, this topic has not previously come up in DISPATCH. I
>>> suggest sending a note to this list with some background about the draft
>>> and how you would like to see it progress.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Ben.
>>>
>>> On Jun 15, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Emad Omara <
>>> emadomara=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> We would like to have a session in the next IETF to discuss the SFrame
>>> draft <https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-omara-sframe-00> Can you
>>> please help scheduling this?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Emad
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>
>>>
>>>