Re: [Sframe] Concluding SFRAME

"Sergio Murillo (CosmoSoftware)" <sergio.garcia.murillo@cosmosoftware.io> Wed, 27 July 2022 15:00 UTC

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From: "Sergio Murillo (CosmoSoftware)" <sergio.garcia.murillo@cosmosoftware.io>
To: "Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com>, "sframe@ietf.org" <sframe@ietf.org>
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Hi Murray,

I am almost done with the Cryptex and the WHIP drafts that have consumed most of my IETF-time. I was going to start working on SFrame next, so I would prefer not closing the WG.

Best regards
Sergio

From: Sframe <sframe-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Murray S. Kucherawy
Sent: miƩrcoles, 27 de julio de 2022 16:42
To: sframe@ietf.org
Subject: [Sframe] Concluding SFRAME

Colleagues,

We are once again looking at a moribund working group.  Although there are implementations and there were past promises of activity, and despite the efforts of the chairs, there has been no demonstrable progress here.

I propose we close.  If momentum reappears in the future, we can consider reopening, perhaps with a revised charter.  The list can remain open.

Absent a sustainable argument to the contrary, I'll do that sometime soon after the end of IETF 114 this week.

-MSK, ART AD