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Re: [shara] Problem statement

<Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com> Wed, 28 January 2009 04:40 UTC

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  >-----Original Message-----
  >From: ext Matthew Ford [mailto:ford@isoc.org]
  >Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:52 PM
  >To: Bajko Gabor (Nokia-CIC/MtView)
  >Cc: omaennel@net.t-labs.tu-berlin.de; magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com;
  >shara@ietf.org
  >Subject: Re: [shara] Problem statement
  >
  >Hi all,
  >
  >On 27/1/09 23:25, Gabor.Bajko@nokia.com wrote:
  >> Hi Olaf,
  >>
  >> I think what SHARA should be intended to is:
  >
  >> b) develop solutions for the problems a shared IPv4 address creates:
  >fragmentation, routing, tunneling, lack of port randomization, etc.
  >
  >If there were easy solutions for all the issues created by widespread
  >deployment of shared IPv4 addresses, we wouldn't need IPv6.
  >
  >I think an important work item to add to the charter is documentation of
  >as many of the issues that shared IPv4 addresses create that can be
  >identified by the community at the time. Shared addresses may (or may
  >not) be necessary but they should come with a health warning.

Good point to add. The intention is to emphasize that this solution is a temporary one to be used during the transition period, and not an alternative to IPv6 (not even on the short term).

  >I can offer cycles to work on this.

Thanks, your input is needed and appreciated.
- gabor

  >Mat
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