Re: [shara] Preliminary agenda for SHARA BOF

Magnus Westerlund <magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com> Tue, 10 March 2009 13:55 UTC

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Everyone,

I don't know exactly what happened here, the chairs and I have been late
at getting a draft agenda together. We are sorry for that. Please note,
the agenda is still a draft agenda and open for discussion. The chairs
and I are taking feedback on the agenda.

We are clearly missing some related drafts on certain agenda items. We
also have had discussion of joint presentations, apparently the
communication to all parties haven't happened. For example the solutions
agenda item is intended to include the proposed solutions from all that
we know of including Mr Boucadair and co-authors work.

I would however note that having a draft in a space does not necessarily
grant the rights to be on the agenda. The presentation and discussion
needs to have a purpose within the scope of the BOF. To me solution
overview and issues around the solution space do belong on the agenda.
However in the interest of time management the chairs and I do want
joint presentations when possible. The chairs will follow up on this.

I have had a particular vision for this BOF. One that makes it fit into
the ongoing work in Softwires and Behave WG. Splitting people into yet
another WG seem to me be only diluting the pool of people working on
these problems and increasing the overhead to get work done. Thus this
BOF is not WG forming, instead it is run to determine if we should go
ahead and charter the work in already existing WGs. To determine that we
need to have a discussion about the issue intended to be solved and if
there is consensus for the proposed solution space with its trade-offs.

I am sorry that I have been bad at communicating this openly.

Regards

Magnus Westerlund

IETF Transport Area Director & TSVWG Chair
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