Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Wed, 19 October 2011 22:08 UTC
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Cc: draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-multihoming-without-ipv6nat@tools.ietf.org, 'shim6-wg' <shim6@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01
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This looks good to me, I agree that it could go to the AD now. Regards Brian Carpenter On 2011-10-18 20:36, Alberto García wrote: > Hi, > I've just posted a new -'unloaded'- draft version (http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-02.txt). I think now it should be ready to go forward. > Thank you for your comments. > > Regards, > Alberto > > | -----Mensaje original----- > | De: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com] > | Enviado el: sábado, 15 de octubre de 2011 5:51 > | Para: Geoff Huston > | CC: Alberto García; draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-multihoming-without- > | ipv6nat@tools.ietf.org; shim6-wg > | Asunto: Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 > | > | Geoff, I think you're right, even though I share the animosity. > | > | Regards > | Brian Carpenter > | > | On 2011-10-15 14:03, Geoff Huston wrote: > | > Frankly I think it better not to use such loaded terms in an RFC > | > > | > if you dropped "Despite...connectivity," from the document would it > | > really change anything? > | > > | > regards, > | > > | > Geoff > | > > | > On 15/10/2011, at 6:31 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > | > > | >> Yes, thanks. It's better to point to the less harmful solution than > | >> to imply NAPTv6. > | >> > | >> Regards > | >> Brian > | >> > | >> On 2011-10-15 05:21, Alberto García wrote: > | >>> Hi Brian, > | >>> > | >>> [...] > | >>> | > - I've added a new subsection named 'Shim6 and IPv6 NAT' after > | >>> | the > firewall section. In short, IPv6 NATs may allow > | >>> | communicating with the > ULID pair (with the initial locators), > | >>> | but communication will break > with some cases in which locators > | are changed. > | >>> | > | >>> | > | >>> | Please please change this to refer to *prefix* translation and RFC > | 6296. > | >>> | Although that RFC is only Experimental, the idea is to show that > | >>> | the prefix translation (not NAPT) is all we need for IPv6. > | >>> > | >>> Sure. Do you think it would be enough to change the first sentence of > | the 'Shim6 and IPv6 NAT' section to include a reference to RFC 6296, as > | follows?: > | >>> > | >>> "Despite the animosity of the technical community against IPv6 NATs > | >>> because of disrupting end-to-end connectivity, address translation > | >>> techniques such as Network Prefix Translation [RFC6296] may be used > | >>> until workable solutions to avoid renumbering or facilitate > | >>> multihoming are developed [RFC5902]. We now consider the impact > | of > | >>> IPv6 NATs in Shim6 operation." > | >>> > | >>> Regards, > | >>> Alberto > | >>> > | >>> > | >>> | > | >>> | Regards > | >>> | Brian > | >>> | > | >>> | > Since there are many changes, I have generated a new version of > | >>> | the > | >>> | draft: > | >>> | > > | >>> | https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-garcia-shim6-applicability/ > | >>> | > > | >>> | > What do you think? > | >>> | > > | >>> | > Thanks, > | >>> | > Alberto > | >>> | > > | >>> | > | > | >>> | > | In any case I support this draft going forward to the AD quite > | soon. > | >>> | > | > | >>> | > | Regards > | >>> | > | Brian Carpenter > | >>> | > | > | >>> | > | > | >>> | > | > | >>> | > | > | > > >
- Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [shim6] I-D Action: draft-garcia-shim6-applic… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [shim6] I-D Action: draft-garcia-shim6-applic… Geoff Huston
- Re: [shim6] I-D Action: draft-garcia-shim6-applic… Alberto García
- [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Alberto García
- Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Geoff Huston
- Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Alberto García
- Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Brian E Carpenter