Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01
Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> Sat, 15 October 2011 03:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01
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Geoff, I think you're right, even though I share the animosity. Regards Brian Carpenter On 2011-10-15 14:03, Geoff Huston wrote: > Frankly I think it better not to use such loaded terms in an RFC > > if you dropped "Despite...connectivity," from the document would it really > change anything? > > regards, > > Geoff > > On 15/10/2011, at 6:31 AM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > >> Yes, thanks. It's better to point to the less harmful solution than >> to imply NAPTv6. >> >> Regards >> Brian >> >> On 2011-10-15 05:21, Alberto García wrote: >>> Hi Brian, >>> >>> [...] >>> | > - I've added a new subsection named 'Shim6 and IPv6 NAT' after the >>> | > firewall section. In short, IPv6 NATs may allow communicating with the >>> | > ULID pair (with the initial locators), but communication will break >>> | > with some cases in which locators are changed. >>> | >>> | >>> | Please please change this to refer to *prefix* translation and RFC 6296. >>> | Although that RFC is only Experimental, the idea is to show that the prefix >>> | translation (not NAPT) is all we need for IPv6. >>> >>> Sure. Do you think it would be enough to change the first sentence of the 'Shim6 and IPv6 NAT' section to include a reference to RFC 6296, as follows?: >>> >>> "Despite the animosity of the technical community against IPv6 NATs >>> because of disrupting end-to-end connectivity, address translation >>> techniques such as Network Prefix Translation [RFC6296] may be used >>> until workable solutions to avoid renumbering or facilitate >>> multihoming are developed [RFC5902]. We now consider the impact of >>> IPv6 NATs in Shim6 operation." >>> >>> Regards, >>> Alberto >>> >>> >>> | >>> | Regards >>> | Brian >>> | >>> | > Since there are many changes, I have generated a new version of the >>> | draft: >>> | > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-garcia-shim6-applicability/ >>> | > >>> | > What do you think? >>> | > >>> | > Thanks, >>> | > Alberto >>> | > >>> | > | >>> | > | In any case I support this draft going forward to the AD quite soon. >>> | > | >>> | > | Regards >>> | > | Brian Carpenter >>> | > | >>> | > | >>> | > | >>> | > | >
- Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [shim6] I-D Action: draft-garcia-shim6-applic… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [shim6] I-D Action: draft-garcia-shim6-applic… Geoff Huston
- Re: [shim6] I-D Action: draft-garcia-shim6-applic… Alberto García
- [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Alberto García
- Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Geoff Huston
- Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Alberto García
- Re: [shim6] draft-garcia-shim6-applicability-01 Brian E Carpenter