Re: [Shutup] Proposed Charter for something

Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> Mon, 07 December 2015 10:50 UTC

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On 07/12/15 02:34, John Levine wrote:
> This is increasingly looking like a RG, not a WG.

Hmm, not sure. A good RG is one that'd attract an active
research community and be relatively long lived whereas
this seems like a bit of work where we need to do a relatively
small and discrete amount of research on one topic. (Which
is roughly "What'd happen if you mucked with received headers
the MSA passes on to the rest of the mail infrastructure?")

The way I think of it is a good RG would produce a stream
of academic publications and then some stuff that'd be of
use to the IETF. This sounds more like one paper's worth
of research then stuff would be done in the IETF or not,
depending on the findings.

So I don't think an RG would be a good plan and a WG
can be chartered to investigate things before proposing
things.

But if folks think an RG is better, the first step would be
to talk to Lars about it.

S.