Re: [Shutup] [ietf-smtp] Proposed Charter for the "SMTP Headers Unhealthy To User Privacy" WG (fwd)

"Christian Huitema" <huitema@huitema.net> Wed, 02 December 2015 19:50 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Shutup] [ietf-smtp] Proposed Charter for the "SMTP Headers Unhealthy To User Privacy" WG (fwd)
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> A concern would be that some of the enthusiasm for the process is people
> may be planning to use the existence of an RFC as a stick with which to
beat
> into submission the implementors and the developers ("but you have to do
> this, the IETF said so"). Now that may be the right way to proceed, but
I'm
> not entirely sure if the implementors and developers would entirely
concur.

What makes you think that the pressure is not happening right now? Why do
you think that so many of the big-name e-mail providers are already
redacting some of the "Received" information? Do you really believe that the
pressure would stop if the IETF just remained silent? 

The WG process will ensure that the IETF provides careful and balanced
guidance, and hopefully uniform implementations. The absence of IETF process
will only ensure that the pressure and implementations will happen without
IETF guidance. 

-- Christian Huitema