Re: [Shutup] [ietf-smtp] Proposed Charter for the "SMTP Headers Unhealthy To User Privacy" WG (fwd)

Ted Lemon <> Wed, 02 December 2015 14:05 UTC

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Wednesday, Dec 2, 2015 4:44 AM Paul Smith wrote:
> This is the bit that worries me. As a small mail server publisher & hosting company, we try to actually help our customers with their problems (unlike some of the big providers). The information in the Received headers is vital to us when trying to narrow down why their messages bounced, or why their incoming mail was delayed, or whatever.

This is all true, and definitely a matter of concern.   The question is, is there some way that we can give you enough information to do the debugging you need to do, without leaking private information?   E.g., when would you need the sender's home IP address to do debugging?

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