Re: [Shutup] [ietf-smtp] Proposed Charter for the "SMTP Headers Unhealthy To User Privacy" WG (fwd)

Dave Crocker <dhc2@dcrocker.net> Wed, 02 December 2015 15:23 UTC

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On 12/2/2015 7:20 AM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> Wednesday, Dec 2, 2015 10:12 AM Dave Crocker wrote:
>> Absent hard data that shows efficacy, both of you are wrong.
> 
> Not leaking data is 100% effective at not leaking data.

A shame that has nothing to do with this thread or what I said.


>> At base, we don't know how to prevent folks from getting scammed,
>> while still allowing them to interact with the outside world.
> 
> We know that revealing their personal information is harmful.  

A shame that has nothing to do with this thread or what I said.


>> Lots of people are sure they know the right answer here, but none
>> of them can document efficacy.  Worse, most of the ways people cite
>> have already been demonstrated to be inadequate or unachievable.
> 
> Redacting IP address information from SMTP submission servers is very
> achievable, 

A shame that has nothing to do with this thread or what I said.


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Dave Crocker
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