Re: [sidr] [Idr] operator inputs -- route leak solution
Gert Doering <gert@space.net> Wed, 22 March 2017 14:33 UTC
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From: Gert Doering <gert@space.net>
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Subject: Re: [sidr] [Idr] operator inputs -- route leak solution
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Hi,
On Tue, Mar 21, 2017 at 03:19:42PM -0700, Brian Dickson wrote:
> Pre-emptive top-post in case anyone mistakes the technique proposed: This
> will NOT be implemented via communities.
>
> The proposal is for a NEW optional transitive attribute.
>
> If any operators can answer the original question, this will be very
> helpful. Thank you in advance to any and all operators.
>
> Reminder on optional+transitive logic
> - If the attribute is not understood/implemented/enabled, the attribute is
> passed unmodified.
> - If it is understood & implemented & enabled, behavior is subject to the
> applicable standards.
> - Thus, optional transitives are "opt-in", by definition.
It does not really matter if this is a well-known community or a new
transitive attribute.
If ISPs do not turn this *on* on their customer connections, it will not
do anything - and given that those ISPs that *need* to turn this on are
the ones that are not caring today, I'm still not seeing why they would
turn this on tomorrow.
So you're adding implementation complexity which will not help anything.
Gert Doering
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- [sidr] operator inputs -- route leak solution Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
- Re: [sidr] [Idr] operator inputs -- route leak so… Gert Doering
- Re: [sidr] [Idr] operator inputs -- route leak so… Brian Dickson
- Re: [sidr] [Idr] operator inputs -- route leak so… Neil J. McRae
- Re: [sidr] [Idr] operator inputs -- route leak so… Gert Doering
- Re: [sidr] [Idr] operator inputs -- route leak so… Brian Dickson
- Re: [sidr] [Sidrops] operator inputs -- route lea… Randy Bush
- Re: [sidr] [Sidrops] operator inputs -- route lea… Brian Dickson
- Re: [sidr] [Sidrops] operator inputs -- route lea… Randy Bush
- Re: [sidr] [Sidrops] operator inputs -- route lea… Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed)
- Re: [sidr] [Idr] operator inputs -- route leak so… Gert Doering
- Re: [sidr] [GROW] [Sidrops] operator inputs -- ro… Susan Hares
- Re: [sidr] [Idr] operator inputs -- route leak so… Randy Bush