[sidr] rpki-tree-validation vs. madi-sidr-rp
Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> Tue, 28 June 2016 18:19 UTC
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Subject: [sidr] rpki-tree-validation vs. madi-sidr-rp
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Although I was not present at the BA SIDR meeting, I did participate remotely for one of the sessions. I recall the discussion of the I-D that tries to collect all of the RP requirements in one place, with cites to the sources of these requirements. It part, I recall folks at the mic arguing that this I-D was redundant relative to the existing WG document on tree validation. I don't think this is an accurate comparison of the two docs, although I agree that there is overlap between them. RPKI tree validation describes how the RIPE RP software works. It includes references to 6 SIDR RFCs to explain why the software performs certain checks. The RP requirements doc cites 11 SIDR RFCs, plus the BGPsec (router cert) profile. Thus it appears that the requirements doc tries to address a wider set of RFCs relevant to RP requirements. More importantly, the requirements doc is generic, while the tree validation doc is expressly a description of one RP implementation. Thus it is an example of how that implementation tries to meet the RP requirements, not a general characterization of RP requirements. Thus I think it appropriate to proceed with both docs. Steve
- Re: [sidr] rpki-tree-validation vs. madi-sidr-rp Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [sidr] rpki-tree-validation vs. madi-sidr-rp Declan Ma
- [sidr] rpki-tree-validation vs. madi-sidr-rp Stephen Kent
- Re: [sidr] rpki-tree-validation vs. madi-sidr-rp Declan Ma