Re: [sidr] wglc for draft-ietf-sidr-adverse-actions-00

Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> Fri, 01 July 2016 22:39 UTC

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> I'll revise that text to note the case of a resource transfer appears to 
> be competition

it is more than transfer.  it is the very frequent operation of changing
tranist providers.  i own P, but do not use bgp.  my parent T0 announces
it for me (roa P-T0).  i change upstream providers to T1.  during the
move there are two roas, the second being P-T1.

this all was very intentionally designed for make before break.
multiple roas with different ASs for the same prefix are normal.  i
found it shocking and disappointing to have the introduction say
otherwise.

randy