Re: [sidr] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC7115 (4973)

Tassos Chatzithomaoglou <achatz@forthnet.gr> Fri, 31 March 2017 21:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sidr] [Errata Held for Document Update] RFC7115 (4973)
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Since RFC's intention is to provide guidance, i believe that saying "a forged origin attack cannot succeed against 10.0.666.0/24" is a little bit confusing, because this statement is valid even without any RPKI in place.

After all, there is another reference of a non-documentation but valid prefix 10.0.42.0/24 already included and imho it wouldn't do any harm to include one more.

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Tassos

Randy Bush wrote on 27/3/17 21:34:
>> In some cultures, the number 666 is supposed to be the number of “the
>> beast”, i.e. the devil, and therefore a sign of evil.  The text
>> chooses this number 666 in the prefix 10.0.666.0/24 with the intent to
>> imply that the announcement is deliberately evil, disregarding the
>> fact that 666 is not a legitimate ipv4 prefix octet.
>>
>> Of course, I’m not the author, so I could be wrong.
> you are, but no big deal.  it could have been anything gt 255, but i
> knew 666 would catch the western eye.
>
> randy
>