Re: [sidr] Injecting idea of "freshness of repository data" into BGP

Andy Newton <andy@arin.net> Fri, 30 March 2012 08:54 UTC

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On Mar 29, 2012, at 4:06 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

>  o we could get much better rsync performance with a trivial change at
>    the rirs.

I've learned that little related to the RPKI is trivial.

Is the actual issue observed with rsync documented anywhere, along with a more descriptive solution? I think I understand what is being asked, but it would be best to have clarity before making changes.

Also, the presentation given at SIDR and IEPG indicated the study was done with only one RPKI validator. We have all three running in our lab and have noticed differences in speed over a local network with the same repository. Before declaring the problem a universal issue with rsync, wouldn't a test with the other validators provide helpful data points?

-andy