Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers-00
"Murphy, Sandra" <Sandra.Murphy@parsons.com> Fri, 23 August 2013 18:09 UTC
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From: "Murphy, Sandra" <Sandra.Murphy@parsons.com>
To: Andy Newton <andy@arin.net>, "Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)" <rogaglia@cisco.com>
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Subject: Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers-00
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Speaking as working group chair: I can't be certain that this indicates a promise to modify the draft or not. Roque, Andy, could you comment? If so, a new version is needed and I'll say so on the list. If not, I'll have to ask for resolution on list. Speaking as regular ol' member (and a bit as wg chair, as I'm not clear about the intent of the new text): I don't think this text hurts anything, but I am puzzled about the intent. If "all known" implementations comply, why mention the problem? OTOH, it might serve to forestall AD/IESG questions. So I agree with Andy's observation, though I'd say a heading "Backward Compatibility Considerations" rather than "Interoperability Considerations" suits the situation better. (Apologies - searching for the thread, I found these comments stuck in my draft folder from 17 July.) --Sandy P.S. "strick"->"strict" "RPKI signed objects" -> "RPKI objects" <because you mean CA certs as well and signed objects might be taken to mean only ROAs and ghostbusters and manifests etc> "implements"->"include" or "contain" or... "RP"-> relying party (or you'll have to define the acronym somewhere) Not sure what ""as in IDR" means. ________________________________________ From: Andy Newton [andy@arin.net] Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 9:49 AM To: Roque Gagliano (rogaglia) Cc: Murphy, Sandra; sidr@ietf.org Subject: Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers-00 This sounds fine to me, though it is really an interoperability considerations section thingy. The IETF does those now, right? :) -andy On 7/16/13 4:55 AM, "Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)" <rogaglia@cisco.com> wrote: >Thanks Andy. > >Do you think we need to add something in the security section about the >transition? > >Something like: > >"A RP that performs a strick validation based on RFC6487 and fails to >support the updates described in this document, would incorrectly >invalidate RPKI signed objects that implements the changes in Section 2. >At the time of this writing, all known RP software suites (you can >mention them as in IDR) were tested and supported the updates on this >document" > >Roque > >On Jul 15, 2013, at 7:07 PM, Andy Newton <andy@arin.net> wrote: > >> On 7/15/13 10:22 AM, "Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)" <rogaglia@cisco.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Before sending my support to advance to the IESG, I wanted to ask the >>> author if they have tested the effects of this change on existing RP >>> tools. Do they really set the certificate as invalid? >> >> Yes, we have tested against the three RP suites. One did not require a >> change while the other two required simple one line changes. Current >> releases of all three now accommodate it. >> >> -andy >> > >
- [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers-00 Murphy, Sandra
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Randy Bush
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… George Michaelson
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Randy Bush
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Melinda Shore
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… John Curran
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Melinda Shore
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… John Curran
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Randy Bush
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… John Curran
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Robert Loomans
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Stephen Kent
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Andy Newton
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Andy Newton
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Andy Newton
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Rob Austein
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Sean Turner
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Danny McPherson
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Murphy, Sandra
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Geoff Huston
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Andy Newton
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Geoff Huston
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Roque Gagliano (rogaglia)
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Murphy, Sandra
- Re: [sidr] wglc draft-ietf-sidr-policy-qualifiers… Christopher Morrow