Re: [sidr] Warren Kumari's Discuss on draft-ietf-sidr-slurm-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Sat, 07 April 2018 15:38 UTC

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From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2018 11:37:44 -0400
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To: Di Ma <madi@zdns.cn>
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Subject: Re: [sidr] Warren Kumari's Discuss on draft-ietf-sidr-slurm-07: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 10:02 AM Di Ma <madi@zdns.cn> wrote:

> Warren,
>
> Thanks very much for your comments.
>
> Please see my responses in lines.
>
> > 在 2018年4月2日,05:02,Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> 写道:
> >
> > Warren Kumari has entered the following ballot position for
> > draft-ietf-sidr-slurm-07: Discuss
> >
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> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > DISCUSS:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I don't understand the targeting as it related to domain/host names (and
> > suspect that others will have the same issue).
> >
> >> From section 3.3:
> > "  If a "slurmTarget" element is
> >   present, an RP SHOULD verify that the target is an acceptable value,
> >   and reject this SLURM file if the "slurmTarget" element is not
> >   acceptable.... Accordingly, the SLURM file
> >   source needs to indicate which RP(s) should make use of the file by
> >   adding the domain name(s) of the RP(s) to the SLURM file target...
> >  Such a target value is a server name expressed in FQDN.
> >
> >   "slurmTarget": [
> >     {
> >       "hostname": "rpki.example.com",
> >       "comment": "This file is intended for RP server rpki.example.com"
> >     }
> > ]
> >
> > So, if I want to target multiple RPs (rpki1.example.com,
> rpki2.example.com) can
> > I do:
> >
> >   "slurmTarget": [
> >     {
> >       "hostname": "example.com",
> >       "comment": "This file is intended for RP server rpki.example.com"
> >     }
> > ]
> >
> > ?
> > The "domain names(s)" versus "hostname" vs "server name expressed in
> FQDN" text
> > is handwavey. I'm assuming that I'd need to do:
> >
> >   "slurmTarget": [
> >     {
> >       "hostname": "rpki1.example.com",
> >       "comment": "This file is intended for RP server rpki1.example.com"
> >     },
> > {
> >       "hostname": "rpki2.example.com",
> >       "comment": "This file is intended for the RP server,
> rpki2.example.com"
> >     },
> > ]"
> > Can you please make this clearer, and hopefully add more targets to the
> > examples? This seems like an easy fix / clarification, happy to clear
> once it
> > is, er, clear.
> >
> >
>
> We authors have decided to drop the slurmTarget element completely.
>


That works for me
​.​

Please
​(explicitly and loudly!) ​
let me know when the new version is
​submitted ​and I'll remove my discuss.


​W​


> Initially the implementation team was thinking that it would be useful to
> have the ability to offer the same set of SLURM files to all RPs deployed
> in a network, where local config of the RP would then evaluate the
> applicability of each file. However, now that both implementations (RIPE
> NCC Validator and RPSTIR) progressed we reconsider and we feel that it
> would be better to deal with this on the provisioning side. I.e. only offer
> the SLURM file(s) relevant to each RP.
>
>
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> > COMMENT:
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I have a few questions and editorial comments:
> >
> > 1: Section Abstract:
> > ISPs can also be able to use the RPKI to validate the path of a BGP
> route.
> > I think you meant “ISPs can also use the RPKI..."
>
>
> ACK.
>
> >
> > 2: Section 1.  Introduction
> > "However, an "RPKI relying party" (RP) may want to override some of the
> > information expressed via putative Trust Anchor(TA) and the certificates
> > downloaded from the RPKI repository system." I think this should be
> either "a
> > putative Trust Anchor (TA)" or "putative Trust Anchors (TA)" (single vs
> > plurals). I agree with others that "putative TA" is not a well known
> term -
> > perhaps you can find a better one?
> >
>
> We will use ‘configured Trust Anchor(s)’ instead.
>
>
> > Section 3.4.1.  Validated ROA Prefix Filters
> > In the "prefixFilters examples", I think it would be helpful to update
> the
> > comments to be more explicit about what is being matched (e.g"All VRPs
> covered
> > by 198.51.100.0/24 and matching AS 64497")
> >
> >
> ACK.
>
> And we will update JSON related content in this draft based on Adam’s
> suggestions.
>
> Di
>
>