Re: [sidr] adverse actions -01 posted

Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> Wed, 14 September 2016 20:12 UTC

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Tim.

I'm happy to hear that you liked the revisions I made, several of which 
were suggested by Chris.

> However, I maintain that the term "adverse" has connotations that you 
> may not intend, but a significant proportion of readers will pick up 
> on. The first synonym on dictionary.com is actually 'hostile', and the 
> oxford thesaurus includes 'hostile' and 'antagonistic' for 'adverse' 
> in relation to a human response. 
Yes, the first synonym provided by that website is "hostile" but that 
term does not appear in the definition Other online dictionary 
definitions include:  preventing success or development, harmful, 
unfavorable, opposed to one's interest, causing harm ...

In the case of an attack, hostile is appropriate. In the case of an 
error or an action dictated by contract, hostile is not appropriate. But 
I think the text in the intro and abstract makes it clear which is which.
> This is why I, and others, suggested weaker terms. I still think "unwanted" can be used. I have no issue with "anomalous". But "adverse" I cannot support.
And I've explained why "unwanted" and "anomalous" are terms I cannot 
support.

Steve