Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-13's security guarantees

David Mandelberg <david@mandelberg.org> Fri, 11 September 2015 00:28 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sidr] draft-ietf-sidr-bgpsec-protocol-13's security guarantees
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On 2015-09-10 15:09, Stephen Kent wrote:
> At least initially, sig order was required to match the AS transit
> order, to ensure that the
> AS transit order is accurately represented. Is that no longer true?

Are you talking about (1) the order of the signatures on the wire, (2) 
the order of which AS path is covered by which signature, or (3) the 
chronological order in which the signatures are generated? I think Rob 
and I were talking about (3), but Rob should tell me if I misunderstood 
him.

For (1), the order needs to specified such that each signature can be 
correctly verified. Having the order of the signatures match the AS 
transit order seems like the most sensible way to do this.

For (2), I think it's critical that each signature covers that correct 
AS path, in the correct order.

For (3), the signatures will typically be generated in order, but I 
don't see the value of enforcing that. I.e., while I don't see the point 
of pre-computing signatures before including them in a BGPsec UPDATE, I 
also don't see any harm in it.

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