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Stephen Kent <kent@bbn.com> Wed, 27 July 2016 20:13 UTC

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Matthias,


> Hi Steve,
>
> On Wed, 27 Jul 2016, Stephen Kent wrote:
>
>> Tim offered no suggestion for a different term, which is not helpful.
>>
>    the suggestion was "unwanted".
I reread Tim's message; I don't interpret it as having suggested 
"unwanted" as an alternative. What I see is Tim noting that the changes 
are unwanted by the INR holder. That's true, but the term evocative, 
i.e., it fails to communicate the fact that the changes adversely effect 
the INR holder.
> I just had a brief look into "Internet Security Glossary, Version 2"
> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc4949) "corrupted" could be an
> alternative but I suppose it's still not light version.
Corruption usually implies an unauthorized change, an integrity 
violation. Suppression of an update to the RPKI repository system would 
not be accurately characterized as corruption, yet it is one of the 
actions we consider.

Steve

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