[sidr] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-validation-reconsidered-08: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com> Tue, 29 August 2017 02:36 UTC

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This is probably just a matter of me being dense, but I'd like to understand
what I am missing:

Is it legal to mix certificate policies in a given cert path? The last
paragraph of section 5 implies that you can, but doesn't say so explicitly. If
you _can_ mix policies, what happens if you do? If I read the rules in
correctly (and it's likely that I am not), if you run into a cert in the chain
that does not follow this profile, it's likely to give a null VRS-IP or VRS-AS
value, which would seem to invalidate an certificate further down the chain
that _does_ follow this policy?

So, I guess it comes down to the following: If mixed policies are allowed, how
does that work? If mixed policies are not allowed, there needs to be text that
says that. It's quite possible such text exists (here or elsewhere), and I
missed it.



- General: There's a lot of amending going on here--does this draft really not
update any RFCs (e.g. 6487)?

-- "Any extension not thus identified MUST NOT appear in
       certificate x." (Repeats multiple times)
That seems to prevent future extensibility. Is that the intent?

-- "Certificate x MUST NOT have been revoked, i.e., it MUST NOT
       appear on a CRL issued by the CA represented by certificate x-1"
Is this intended as a requirement to check CRLs? If so, please say that


- The third paragraph seems redundant to the first paragraph (pattern
repeats in several sections.)he

- "Either the IP Resources extension, or the AS Resources extension, or
   both, MUST be present in all RPKI certificates, and if present, MUST
   be marked critical."
"... and if present..." seems redundant, since the previous clause said one
MUST be present.

- "... values are NOT supported..."
a floating, capitalized "NOT" is not defined in RFC 2119. I suspect the
all-caps is just for emphasis, but we typically reserve that for RFC 2119

- :
-- "Certificate validation requires verifying that all of the following
   conditions hold, in addition to the certification path validation
   criteria specified in Section 6 of [RFC5280]."

The "... in addition to..." part doesn't seem quite true. For example, making
sure the current date fits in the active range, ensuring a cert is signed by
the issuer, etc.  are already covered in 5280.

- - "...certificate MUST contain all
       extensions defined in section 4.8 of [RFC6487] that must be
That seems tautologically true. If this is a statement of fact, then please
avoid the MUST. If this is really a new normative requirement, then I'm
confused at the intent.

-- "all extensions defined in section 4.8 of
       [RFC6487], except sections 4.8.9, 4.8.10 and 4.8.10 MUST be
       present. "
It would be more reader-friendly to mention what extensions are defined in

-- "7. Compute the VRS-IP and VRS-AS set values as indicated below:"
Inconsistent voice.

-- list entry 7, 4th bullet: "If the IP Address Delegation extension is present
          certificate x and x=1, set the VRS-IP to the resources found
          in this extension."
That seems identical to the first bullet. Should it has said "AS Address
Delegation extension"?