Re: [sidr] Interim Meeting Draft Agenda: 04-30-2012 (April 30, 2012)

Danny McPherson <danny@tcb.net> Wed, 11 April 2012 17:57 UTC

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> I suppose, to me this looks like any other configuration thing you do
> today on routers... beating the vendor over the head to support sane
> (netconf? maybe?) methods for provisioning, is already done.

So how we onboard, update, or purge information from RPKI and sign stuff on n routers in z locations that 10's of thousands of others will evaluate in millions of routers to determine reachability of our information is relegated to "out of scope" of SIDR?

Gotcha - done here....

-danny