Re: [sidr] Route Leaks and BGP Security

[Russ White <[e-mail]>]

>   o a significant portion of the internet's isps will not publish
>     peering and customer business relationships,

You can't secure what you don't tell anyone about. Security is about
allowing others to compare the current state against what the state
should be. What you're asking for is to ask someone else to take some
specific action for you without telling them what that action should be.
An impossibility.

>   o ASs are not homogenous, A gives B local peering and international
>     transit in frankfurt, but B may have no relationship with A in
>     new york, or B may be A's customer in new york, and you will never
>     know (and you do not want to see how this is done if you are
>     anywhere near a meal)

These can be accounted for in some of the systems that have been
proposed in the past, or are now available.

>   o this is just a repeat of the non-sense which wasted years of time
>     of the last ietf attempt in this area,

Which is a worse waste of time --designing a solution first, then
fitting the requirements around it, or figuring out what the problem is,
then thinking through possible solutions?

:-)

Russ