Re: [sidr] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-oob-setup-06: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in> Wed, 08 February 2017 15:03 UTC

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From: Alissa Cooper <alissa@cooperw.in>
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Subject: Re: [sidr] Alissa Cooper's Discuss on draft-ietf-sidr-rpki-oob-setup-06: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)
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> On Jan 19, 2017, at 9:34 AM, Alvaro Retana (aretana) <aretana@cisco.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi!
>  
> I was going to wait for the author, but he has been out sick this week… L
>  
> Picking up from Benoit’s comment – the use of “protocol” is misleading.  What is described is a process that can be followed and the necessary information exchanged “to simplify configuration…by setting up relationships and exchanging keying material used to authenticate those relationships.”

Is this going to be clarified in the document?

Thanks,
Alissa

>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Alvaro.
>  
>> On 1/17/17, 1:00 PM, "Alissa Cooper" <alissa@cooperw.in <mailto:alissa@cooperw.in>> wrote:
>>  
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> DISCUSS:
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>  
>> (1) I agree with Mirja that this document seems to be missing the actual
>> protocol specification, unless Section 6 is meant to provide the
>> normative specification of how the messages are to be exchanged. Is it?
>> If so, I would expect that to be explicit in the document.
>>  
>> (2) If there is in fact supposed to be a protocol specified here, I have
>> the same question as I had on draft-ietf-sidr-publication, which is how
>> do the entities migrate from one version to another and do version
>> negotiation?
>>