Re: [sidr] Burstiness of BGP updates

Christopher Morrow <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> Wed, 16 November 2011 06:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [sidr] Burstiness of BGP updates
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On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Brian Dickson
<brian.peter.dickson@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 12:35 AM, Christopher Morrow
> <morrowc.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

>> you may be willing to do same, you may also be willing to do this in
>> the case of internal services routes that you don't actually want
>> externally visible.
>
> Sure - and locally significant signatures/trust-anchors are very
> important for just such an occasion.
> (For any convenient value of "local", it should be noted. City, zip
> code, province, continent, building, whatever.)

yup, agreed.

>>
>> re-announcement is 'harder' since it's not clear if NTT is supposed to
>> be passing cogent aol's routes or not, is it?
>
> Agreed - I can't be specific on exactly when, but expect me to present something
> "real soon now" on a nuts-and-bolts level of how to do this. Maybe a
> month, maybe two.

look forward to it!
I wonder actually if some on-going survey of routing data could help
to inform when a 'leak' happens... I suspect this is what cyclops/etc
are doing (identifying normal 'status' of routes between networks),
I'm not clear on how useful this would be in the end though, my
experience with cyclops/etc haven't been useful so far :(

-chris