Re: [sidr] [Technical Errata Reported] RFC6482 (7079)

Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net> Wed, 10 August 2022 18:24 UTC

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From: Geoff Huston <gih@apnic.net>
To: John Scudder <jgs=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org>
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> On 10 Aug 2022, at 11:17 am, John Scudder <jgs=40juniper.net@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> 
> On Aug 10, 2022, at 12:48 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>> 
>> while i agree with the sentiment, to this amateur, this smells more like
>> a bit more of a change than an erratum.
> 
> That’s how it looks to me, too. It may be instructive to look at numbered item 5 under https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/iesg/statements/processing-errata-ietf-stream/
> 

I agree with John here. The adding of a further constraint to the EE certificate used to sign a ROA is
a material change to the interoperability of implementations pre- and post- this change.

Geoff