Re: [Sidrops] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-sidrops-rpki-has-no-identity-05: (with COMMENT)

"Murray S. Kucherawy" <superuser@gmail.com> Fri, 08 April 2022 05:56 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] Murray Kucherawy's No Objection on draft-ietf-sidrops-rpki-has-no-identity-05: (with COMMENT)
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On Thu, Apr 7, 2022 at 10:57 AM Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:

> >    If it tried to do so, aside from the liability, it would end in a
> >    world of complexity with no proof of termination, as X.400 learned.
> >
> > Is there a reference describing the X.400 lesson that could be
> > included here?
>
> [...]
>
> but, i take your point.  a knowledge of history is required.  might be
> easiest to drop the ref to X.400.  whatcha think?
>
> and i suspect that non-cs folk will not get 'proof of termination'.
> hmmm.
>

That's probably sufficient.  I was just curious when I read this sentence
to read more about the history, but didn't know where to turn.  Certainly
not a blocking comment.


> >    Registries such as the Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) provide
> >    INR to real-world identity mapping through whois and similar
> >    services.  They claim to be authoritative, at least for the INRs
> >    which they allocate.
> >
> > I think "WHOIS" is properly (or at least traditionally) in all-caps.
>
> i am inclined to lean on the rfced more than seems to be the current
> fashion in the iesg.  how about
>
>    Registries such as the Regional Internet Registries (RIRs) provide
>    INR to real-world identity mapping through WHOIS, [RFC3912], and
>    similar services.  They claim to be authoritative, at least for the
>    INRs which they allocate.
>

Works for me.

-MSK