Re: [Sidrops] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-sidrops-ov-egress-01

Robert Sparks <rjsparks@nostrum.com> Wed, 18 March 2020 03:18 UTC

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On 3/17/20 8:34 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
> thanks for review robert,
>
>> This sentence slowed me down when reading:
>>
>>     As the origin AS may be modified by outbound policy, policy semantics
>>     based on RPKI Origin Validation state MUST be able to be applied
>>     separately on distribution into BGP and on egress.
>>
>> I suggest something like:
>>
>>    As the origin AS may be modified by outbound policy, a BGP speaker
>>    MUST be able to apply policy semantics based on RPKI Origin Validation
>>    state separately on distribution into BGP and on egress.
> am i correct that you point is to make clear that this applies to the BGP
> speaker?

Yes, mostly that.

I wanted to avoid "be able to be" and have an explicit actor. I see the 
difficulty you point to below.

>
> i need to think.  clearly, the speaker will be applying the policy.  but
> is it not the op configuring the policy which is deciding?  or is it
> that you really want to MUST the application, a la
>
>     As the origin AS may be modified by outbound policy, a BGP speaker
>     MUST apply ROV policy semantics using the My Autonomous System
>     number in the BGP OPEN message (see RFC 4271 section 4.2) issued to
>     the peer to which the UPDATE is being sent.
>
> randy