Re: [Sidrops] request for call for Working Group adoption draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update

Nick Hilliard <nick@foobar.org> Thu, 22 April 2021 18:04 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] request for call for Working Group adoption draft-spaghetti-sidrops-rpki-validation-update
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Christopher Morrow wrote on 22/04/2021 18:59:
> I believe the process we were pitched when SIDR was --'d from
> existence was: "If you (sidrops) see a problem, you should write a
> document that serves as the problem description and requirement for
> fix-action. Take the document to IDR, who'll promptly do the
> 3-stooges: "not it" maneuver and hand us off to the AD who will
> SIDR++ and then we can chat about the problem in the SIDR venue, with
> possible protocol changes documented/implemented there."

Right, so bureaucratic mumble in order to make sure that the tickboxes 
which required the tickboxes to be ticked, are ticked.  Great, wfm.

Nick