Re: [Sidrops] draft-ietf-sidrops-8210bis

Di Ma <madi@zdns.cn> Mon, 31 August 2020 03:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] draft-ietf-sidrops-8210bis
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Exactly.

I am exchanging notes with friends working for vendors on the issue you raised.

It would be better to hear from router implementors in the list.

Di

> 2020年8月31日 11:18,Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> 写道:
> 
>> The other one could be done by routers by establishing a transaction
>> of RTR session before effecting those in routing table.
> 
> you might have a small discussion with a router implementor about where
> they would like to store the uncommited transaction.  consider two
> things, many current routers still have a 32-bit memory model, and a
> transaction could be a full dump cold start from a cache.
> 
> randy
>