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Re: [Sidrops] I-D Action: draft-sidrops-bgpsec-validation-signaling-05.txt

"Borchert, Oliver (Fed)" <oliver.borchert@nist.gov> Thu, 15 October 2020 20:53 UTC

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From: "Borchert, Oliver (Fed)" <oliver.borchert@nist.gov>
To: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>, "Borchert, Oliver (Fed)" <oliver.borchert=40nist.gov@dmarc.ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] I-D Action: draft-sidrops-bgpsec-validation-signaling-05.txt
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Hi Job,

My bad, somehow I missed the technical portion of your review. I noticed the ----- but did not realize there is more to come, I mis-read it as part of an earlier email - sorry!

I will go over it now and get back to you.

Thanks,
Oliver

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On 10/15/20, 3:39 PM, "Job Snijders" <job@ntt.net> wrote:

    Dear Oliver,

    On Thu, Oct 15, 2020 at 07:14:21PM +0000, Borchert, Oliver (Fed) wrote:
    > I do not believe there is a need to change the title to specifically
    > include "Internal BGP".

    OK, sure. The document title is just the document title.

    > Therefore I do not see any need for further modification. 

    I am not sure I follow. On the third line of my review I made a
    suggestion about the title, to which you reacted, but then more text
    followed. The rest of the review details technical obstacles I perceive
    with the Internet-Draft in its current form.

    I attempted to organize the review by using '------' (markdown format)
    to separate the various conceptual issues I perceive.

    Kind regards,

    Job

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