Re: [Sidrops] WGLC - draft-ietf-sidrops-validating-bgp-speaker - ENDS 09/07/2018 - Sept 7th 2018

Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> Thu, 06 September 2018 13:40 UTC

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Date: Thu, 6 Sep 2018 15:40:26 +0200
From: Job Snijders <job@ntt.net>
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] WGLC - draft-ietf-sidrops-validating-bgp-speaker - ENDS 09/07/2018 - Sept 7th 2018
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On Thu, Sep 06, 2018 at 01:21:49PM +0000, Daniel Kopp wrote:
> > On 5. Sep 2018, at 09:34, Job Snijders <job@ntt.net> wrote:
> > 
> > I have to ask, (given the author's affiliations) - if this draft is
> > published as an RFC, will you turn back the clock and start
> > propagating invalid route announcements to your customers (marked
> > with an extended community)? 
> 
> It’s not turning back the clocks. There is no origin validation at
> DE-CIX yet and as far as I know, DE-CIX wanted the draft to drive the
> implementation.

In that case, it appears the draft has been taken over by current
events?  From what I understood from your organisation's communications
related to deploying RPKI origin validation there has been a commitment
to deploy this fall.

> Moreover the draft defines the different modes of operations, so as
> far as I know also AMS-IX wants to add the tagging to their current
> implementation.

This puzzles me - AMS-IX already implemented this, some documentation
can be found here: https://ams-ix.net/technical/specifications-descriptions/ams-ix-route-servers/route-server-filtering
(note the 6777:65012, 6777:65022, and 6777:65023) communities.

Kind regards,

Job