Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: ARIN RPKI Service Impact - 12 August 2020 - manifest issue - resolved)

Tim Bruijnzeels <tim@nlnetlabs.nl> Fri, 28 August 2020 12:14 UTC

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From: Tim Bruijnzeels <tim@nlnetlabs.nl>
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Subject: Re: [Sidrops] Reason for Outage report (was: Re: ARIN RPKI Service Impact - 12 August 2020 - manifest issue - resolved)
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> On 28 Aug 2020, at 14:10, Tim Bruijnzeels <tim@nlnetlabs.nl> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> On 28 Aug 2020, at 14:00, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
>> 
>> excuse, but a bit pre caffeine here
>> 
>>> I believe that, if the publication point for a Certification Authority
>>> in the RPKI is rejected for whatever reason, then all VRPS for
>>> prefixes overlapping the resources issued to them in their CA
>>> certificate for said publication point should be filtered out.
>> 
>> complexity and cleverness produce fragility.
> 
> Sure, but:
> 1) it may not be that complicated (SLURM does the same)
> 2) as you said, if you only reject the objects under one CA and the same resources exist elsewhere this can lead to invalids

@2: Announcements with state RPKI Invalid w.r.t. ROV (not other invalid objects)